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hello runescape will miss it here with

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the new video and how is everyone doing

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you know the older runescape gets the

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harder it is to track its history

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especially in the 2001 era when the game

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was new and the gowers were still in

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their 20s

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no one really expected the game to

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become the mammoth it is today

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that's what makes rab so interesting out

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of nearly 300 million accounts and 20

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years later

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he is known as the very first player to

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ever sign up to runescape

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not only that but he's also the first

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non-gower person to moderate and write

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content for the game

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to finish it off he was also a runescape

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beta tester

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having played the game already in year

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2000 before

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its official release some months ago in

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relation

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to other video projects i had the

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privilege to talk to rab for some hours

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turns out he's an old coder possibly not

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very surprising considering his role

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with the jagex in his part in runescape

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history

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but in his case that also meant that he

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kept backups of many files in icq chat

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logs

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with people like andrew gower from

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runescape's first months of existing

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this gives us an exclusive look into not

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only the first year of runescape

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but also into what it was like being on

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jackix's side during the release of the

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game we've all come to love

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i've already mixed a lot of these

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details into my previous video about rap

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so check that out if you haven't but

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this video will mostly cover the small

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bits and pieces i couldn't include

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elsewhere

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but take my word for it it's still

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pretty cool

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let's jump into it as a runescape fan

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it's super exciting to look at the

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origins of content

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that's become iconic in the game what

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you're looking at here is the original

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code for the romeo and juliet quest

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written in runescript in november of

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year 2000.

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what's really interesting is to see the

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difference between the way the quest was

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written and what it's like

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in-game this is kind of like a first

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version that was never released

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like for example in the in-game quest

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when saying juliet could do better

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she says at least romeo's not obsessed

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with fighting

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magic and ranging in the original she

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says at least he doesn't spend all day

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on the internet

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i found that kind of funny this is the

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original script for the npc

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bob the axe salesman what's more

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interesting is that rap believes bob was

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the original first npc

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not hans like it's commonly believed

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today following rap bob was introduced

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earlier

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but was removed for some reason and

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quoted back in shortly after

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moving hands up the chain of early npcs

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but in theory

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bob was designed and written before hans

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the original lumbridge guide no longer

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this dude wasn't around for very long a

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few months stops there's only one

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unknown image of the lumbridge guide

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which you can see in the green shirt

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right there

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the dialogue was mainly to guide new

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players into knowing what to do and

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where to go with the different modes

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that you could choose from

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an interesting point in it is that the

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dialogue mentions some palace guards

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walking around

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probably in lumbridge but i found no

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proof of them existing at any point

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i can only assume there were meant to be

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guards walking around in the lumbridge

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courtyard which would be high enough

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level to kill new players

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instantly there's also a few scripts for

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some unreleased npcs

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mainly a variation of beggars that you

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could give brett and me to

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but if you said the right thing they'd

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give you money instead

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here's some scripts of unreleased npcs

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that seems to be from quests that

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doesn't exist at the moment

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the script references to a monk quest

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but there's not much context to it

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outside of the scripts

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but it gives you an idea of the things

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that jagex had planned for runescape in

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that didn't make it into the game

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there's also the original concept for

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the family crest quest

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which interestingly enough wasn't

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released before in april 2002

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the funny thing is this quest was

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actually written by lady killjoy

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a very popular player back in the days

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she originally called it the quest of

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the magical symbols or family honor

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rap also shared some screenshots like

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this one which is a great view of the

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walkable areas and teleport coordinates

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between lumbridge to varrock

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or all angles of a sheep also melzora's

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may's original design

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which was originally supposed to be a

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lot larger with a lot more convoluted

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ways to get around it

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there was a big challenge with mazes

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back then because of the minimap

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so in its original design it was

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supposed to be too large to be able to

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see all of it using the minimap

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making it harder to navigate through it

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the maze was used though

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partly obviously it was decreased in

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size though and added in with the

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dragon's lair

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this one is the map editor which andrew

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made for runescape

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there was a bug with it though where

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everything added became mirrored in-game

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it's interesting because it means the

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game world is actually supposed to be

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backwards

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like the original maps of the game

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famously shows

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not making it so wasn't a decision made

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somewhere

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it was a bug with a map editor this is a

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mousemat design that rap made but wasn't

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it's quite high detailed with all the

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sprites and stuff though here's an image

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of rap getting 90 woodcutting together

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with other legendary players tks and

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lady killjoy

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now this is probably the most

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interesting part

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this was an old guide for rap to learn

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rune script originally

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but some other files have been added in

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advance i received this as a zip file

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meaning the dates are intact

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note the modification dates 2001

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2002 summer even dated december 2000

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before runescape was even publicly

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available what this

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is is original design files for the

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concept of runescape

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this one seems to be an overview of all

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in-game commands a moderator account

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could use on the launch of runescape

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a guide in how to use your moderating

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powers as written by andrew gower

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it's kind of interesting though a little

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confusing from an outsider perspective

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i find it kind of cool that this was the

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manual new moderators were faced with

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though

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there's an old archived page of the

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cooking skill this page was archived the

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day after

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fishing was released which makes me

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think this was a page released purely

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for that

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today this resembles the skill page you

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get when you click a skill icon in-game

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the highest level food back then was

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anchovy pizza funnily enough

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rabbit also saved some posts from the

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old runescape discussion boards

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this was like the forums but before the

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official forums as we know them

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i can't really show everything here

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though because some of the things said

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here are somewhat sensitive and

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discusses a specific player

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i'm not too keen on sharing that in the

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video now this one is actually super

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hilarious

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it's the original first newsletter from

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late 2002

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it was actually changed some time later

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the version you find today on the

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runescape wiki for example

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is actually slightly different what's

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been changed is the funny world

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andrew gara lived in when writing these

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the version you find today

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isn't too different but one change is

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that the name gabra has been changed to

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andrew

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not that it matters too much but it's

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kind of funny to read these letters

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knowing it's mainly andrew garrow

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boasting about his own system of banning

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people

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it all became too much for the mage

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known only as gubber

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whose ability to manipulate time meant

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that these foul-mouthed ruffians now can

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be caught red-handed by snapshots

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this newsletter was released one month

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after the reporting tool was released to

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the game

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and as the newsletter shows at that

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point 439 players had been permanently

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banned in total on runescape

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where 995 additional players had

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received black marks on their accounts

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considering how canon these newsletters

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turned out to be down the line

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though andrew got his character in-game

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with a get request i find it funny that

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in theory

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andrew gower is canon in the game lore

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as this powerful wizard

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this one is also very interesting it

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seems that originally when logging into

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a server

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you could see who's online how long

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they've been online and their total play

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time

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this page is dated to september 2002 but

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i am not sure if that's when it was

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saved it seems kinda cool to be able to

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see people's activity upon logging in

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though

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new players at least would get an idea

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of how popular the game is amongst the

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current player base

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this must have been early though

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considering there were only 400 people

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online at the time

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there are a couple of interesting things

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on the list there's the player jay

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the original owner of the one letter

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name who would at some point later go on

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to get hijacked

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lose the name and eventually have the

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name banned due to the high number of

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real world trading in the modern

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world there's also mutant mount one of

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the first player sign ups

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this is actually ian gower's personal

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account the longest play time i could

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find was alchemon with nearly 14 days

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play time

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while the longest time without logging

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out at this point was this guy with

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nearly 4 hours

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this page was made prior to the game's

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release it was saved in december 2000

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and seems to be explaining all the

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skills in runescape

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you can see that jagex planned to

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separate the crafting skill

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it's already known there existed a

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tailoring skill on the release of

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runescape

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which was eventually removed but here it

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seems it was supposed to be called suing

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and was about using wool and what not to

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make armor crafting is actually on the

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list too

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on the bottom here but based on the

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description it seems the original design

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for crafting resembled a mix of

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fletching and today's crafting

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seeing you'd be able to make arrows here

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i find that interesting

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considering fletching and the ability

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for players to make arrows wasn't

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actually in the game before in 2002

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herblore released the has er blah was

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spelled somewhat differently in the

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original design

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based on the description i also get the

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idea that potions

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wasn't really planned to be a thing but

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rather just using the herbs directly for

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various purposes

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you could make bows with wood cutting

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again added to the fletching skill in

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2002

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with fire making you could add coal to

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the fire to make the fire better

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whatever that means with smithing though

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and this is a fun one

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you were meant to be able to make money

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by smithing a gold bar

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over the gold coins now that'd be

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interesting seeing how much has changed

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on the list

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i'm going to guess this was a very very

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early design of the runescape skills

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though the file was saved in december

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2000

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i'm going to be bold and suggest it was

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probably made a lot earlier

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that cooking is on the top of the list

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makes me think that cooking was likely

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the first ever skill to be thought up

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for the game

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i was also sent some old game clients

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from 2001 and from when members was

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released in 2002

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they don't work at all other than

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opening them though rabb wasn't

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officially a jagex employee back in

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these days

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so he didn't work in cambridge like the

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other jagex moderators did

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i don't even know if he got paid for the

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work he put into runescape but

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that meant a lot of the dialogue he had

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with andrew was through icq

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chat logs this conversation from

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november 2001 seems to be the origins of

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the first 2000 player list

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andrew seems to be developing the high

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scores and finds it interesting that the

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fletching boards shows the first 2000

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sign

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ups it also shows the player ignite is

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andrew's personal account

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where he also says he hardly plays the

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game himself

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andrew shows his sign of love for

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cabbages which would get copied in game

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over time

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the most interesting part in my opinion

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here is the mention of rs guide

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a moderator who attempted to steal

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runescape from andrew

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what rab is mentioning in this chat is

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some of the moderating rs guide was

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doing

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scamming was a big problem back in 2001

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as mentioned in the first video about

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rap bluro's impersonators were a

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huge problem back in the day this chat

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seems to be the origins of the second

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trade window in-game

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added purely to make sure people

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couldn't get scammed by the different

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blue rose cameras in the game

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you'd think the trade window was a

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general security measure in trading

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so it's kind of interesting to see

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something so vital to the game

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being added because of a famous player

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being impersonated

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let alone being able to read about the

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origins of such a fundamental update

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duping seems to be a big problem back in

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the day too even before the infamous

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party hat dupe in 2003

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there were several major duplication

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glitches that's not been noted in the

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game's history

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in this chat log andrew and rabb seems

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to be talking about a dupe that occurred

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in november 2001.

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it seems that early day bug fixing was

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very simple

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just ask whoever was doing it how it was

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done andrew seems a bit skeptical

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throughout it all though

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possibly because he doesn't understand

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how to fix the bug in discussion here

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rs guide seems to be involved here as

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well keeping track of the different bug

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abusers

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i don't really know if they got banned

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though but i would assume so

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it's actually kind of interesting that

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back then they used to call the act of

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banning someone for

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deleting them i don't know if they

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literally deleted the accounts in this

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situation though

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this also seems to be after the fact

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that rs guide got found out for being a

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fraud

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in this chat robin andrews seems to be

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discussing the rumors in the community

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as to why aura's guide suddenly

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disappeared people claim he was stealing

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codes which

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obviously wasn't the issue at this time

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the guy literally tried to scam andrew

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this chat from april 2002 shows the

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moment runescaper close to hitting 10

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000 players online simultaneously and

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this one as they hit it

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they seem to be quite a happy bunch for

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the success the game is seeing

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ram shared some other things too mostly

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about the moderation in the game at the

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time

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a massive issue in 2001 with a growing

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community was the lack of in-game

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reporting

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meaning a moderator had to be present at

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the location where the rules got broken

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to judge it

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or take the word of other players that

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an offense had been committed

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rabb brought up an interesting story

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which shows this perfectly in relation

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to a well-known player in the early day

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runescape

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called huda best that rap caught botting

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mining

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this guy was well known and in a rival

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clan to raps

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meaning a simple ban would cause a lot

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of controversy considering rap's

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moderator position at the time

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so what rap decided to do was to catch

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the player in the act and teleported him

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to the wilderness

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other players in both clans were called

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in to come look at the dude botting

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by giving who the best items through the

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in-game quick codes such as a pink skirt

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and then using another quick code to

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instantly kill him

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he would lose all his items but keep the

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pink skirt

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and could then be safely banned since

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everyone had seen him bought

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i think it perfectly reflects how much

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of a wild west the game was in the early

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days

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rap did tell me about the time when the

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alcord palace rooftop was used as a

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prism

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and from time to time players were

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teleported there by rap if he suspected

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them of breaking game rules

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if he wasn't sure he just had to pretend

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as if he knew something had happened

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and hoped for a confession it sounds

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difficult to be a player back in those

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days

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everything was so raw anyway

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that's all i have to show for now there

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were some more interesting bits and

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pieces in there but i'm going to save

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those for a different time

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anyway i hope you enjoyed seeing what i

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had to share my name is will miss it and

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i'll see you all

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[Music]

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later

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[Music]

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you